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13 March 2008 @ 10:00 pm
Highly Visible Fantasy Markets  

This is a follow-up to my earlier post about SF markets.  Using very similar filters, I've come up with a list of highly visible fantasy markets.

There are some horror markets thrown in there, as some filters didn't separate the two.

Markets with stories nominated for World Fantasy Awards 2006:

Electric Velocipede1
Twenty Epics1

Markets with stories appeaing in Year's Best Fantasy 2005:

Realms of Fantasy3
Strange Horizons3
Sci Fiction1

Markets with stories appeaing in Year's Best Fantasy & Horror 2007:

Cemetary Dance2
Realms of Fantasy1
Strange Horizons1
Fantasy Magazine1
Alchemy 31
All Hallows1
Fairy Tale Review1
Journal Mythic Arts1
New Genre1
New Yorker1
Ninth Letter1

Markets with at least seven stories getting Honorable Mentions in Year's Best Fantasy & Horror 2007:

Fantasy Magazine20
Realms of Fantasy16
Strange Horizons16
Cemetary Dance11
Dark Wisdom11
Lone Star Stories10
On Spec10
Dark Arts10
Weird Tales9
Mondo Zombie8
Alchemy 37
Electric Velocipede7
Poe's Lighthouse7
Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wr7
Hardboiled Cthulhu7
Read by Dawn7

Clearly F&SF, Realms of Fantasy and Strange Horizons are the ones come up most frequently, with F&SF being the standout. But pretty much any of the titles on these lists would be great places to appear.
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girlspell: Avengersgirlspell on March 15th, 2008 12:14 am (UTC)
Fantasy (to me) is clearly closer and a part of Sci Fi, which is much more popular then horror anyway. Horror is the bad step child, and looks it.

The title are interesting. A lot of them, I don't know. Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wr? Apex sounds like something very hard sci fi would appear in. Cemetary Dance is another one.
Kenken_schneyer on March 15th, 2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
Hi Rachel. Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet is a relatively new speculative literature magazine, edited by Gavin Grant and Kelly Link. It's known for slipstream, but published some good SF and Fantasy too.

Cemetary Dance is a prominent Horror magazine.
oldcharliebrownoldcharliebrown on March 17th, 2008 12:31 pm (UTC)
It's been around for nearly twelve years, and Del Rey just put out The Best of Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet.

Cemetery Dance has been around for twenty years, and is published a few hours north of my location.
Ken: Huxleyken_schneyer on March 17th, 2008 01:43 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the clarifications!
moonette1moonette1 on March 15th, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)
I really need to do something like this with historical. The problem is, I'm totally lost on where to begin. How much would you charge to do this for me? :) I still have to find a home for my Samurai story and my other two, if they go nowhere at the Fish. I definitely want to start with the Fish competition for my two historicals I'm working on now - since that competition is with the Historical Novel Society. And I'll just leech off your lists for my fantasy story, if I ever get it revised and polished.

By the way, you're going for print publication before on line publication, right? That's what I've been counseled to do by the older and wiser.
Ken: Melvilleken_schneyer on March 15th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
I'd be happy to do a search like that for you. The first thing to find out is whether there are any annual awards given for, or any annual collections of, short historical fiction. Then one works backwards. Another thing to do would be to look at the author bios in various historical novels, and see where the author's short fiction has been published.

Bright-line rules, like "print before online," are useful only when you don't know the details of the individual publications. You want to get into the most prominent mags to be noticed by the agents, yes, but one rarely gets into those at the start, and the slightly less prominent mags are read by the editors of the more prominent mags, so they're a stepping-stone. The editor of Asimov's is going to be impressed by the fact that you've been published in Interzone or Postscripts. Second, the frequency of things like award nominations show that Strange Horizons and Jim Baen's Universe are both well thought-of, although they're completely online. Third, the appearance of prominent authors in a mag indicates its quality even if it's online -- So I scroll through the last few years of stories in Strange Horizons and I see Elizabeth Bear, Tim Pratt, Ruth Nestvold, Liz Williams, all of whom are respected authors. Finally, there's rate of pay -- only a handful of SFF short fiction markets can afford to pay enough to appear in the SFWA's paying markets list, but Strange Horizons, Jim Baen's Universe and Orson Scott Card's Intergalactic Medicine Show are all on it, although they're all online.
moonette1: Remember Spartamoonette1 on March 15th, 2008 09:00 pm (UTC)
Ooh, excellent points. I was kidding about you doing the grunt work for me. That's lazy. :) I have to get familiar with these markets sometime.

Here's the explanation, verbatim, about print first, since I think she's coming at it from a different angle:

This depends on the magazine but usually you sell 1st US/Uk/NZ/AUSTR/CAN/SA/EUROPE/IRISH/Translation Rights in your story to a magazine. This means they get the First chance to publish your story in their country.
American mags are picky and often want unpublished anywhere in the world so I always sell there first and then take my 1st Rights to other places. You can sell a story over several years to
many countries.
if you sell online first and not last, then you have allowed anyone with a computer, anywhere in the world, to read your story. This means, to print magazine editors, that anyone in their country can have read your story and so they won't buy it except as 2nd (reprint) Rights.

So publish in print first and on-line last.
And never sell All Rights unless the fee is very high because then you can't sell your story again."
Ken: Brelken_schneyer on March 16th, 2008 01:07 am (UTC)
I think the writer's intent was to say, "If you're going to publish in both online and print, then publish in print first, because the print mags won't print you if you've already published online." However, one doesn't normally make a choice like that. Getting one's story published at all is hard enough that one doesn't seriously think of getting it published in another (U.S.) publication after the first one, except as a reprint, which is what it would be anyway.
oldcharliebrownoldcharliebrown on March 17th, 2008 01:17 pm (UTC)
A market missing from this is Clarkesworld Magazine, which just racked up a third story being reprinted in a year's best anthology, which publishes science fiction, fantasy, and horror.
Ken: Brelken_schneyer on March 17th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
Thank you, Sean. Clarkesworld is an excellent magazine, as everyone who's seen it knows, as well as being one of the very few "paying markets" on the SFWA list. (And I'd be beyond honored to appear in it! :) )

This particular list was based on tallies of only three documents, as was my SF list earlier. Each of those documents took a snapshot at one moment in time; had I been more rigorous, I would have done a more longitudinal survey (looking at the Dozois collections for four or five successive years, for example). It is, in other words, rather woefully incomplete. For the particular editions of the Dozois, Datlow/Link and Hartlow anthologies I examined, Clarkesworld had only one honorable mention in one anthology and three in the another -- assuming that I tallied them properly.

I should probably also say that my intent in both of these lists was more to help sort out the bewildering SFF market universe for myself and try to make some sense of it. There are stunning SFF stories that are published in markets that appear nowhere on this list; for example, On Spec appears rather far down only one of the eight different lists, but all the work they publish is gorgeous. GUD Magazine is missing altogether, but I've read some delightful SFF stories there.

Anyway, I'm certainly not an expert in the SFF markets, and I probably ought to say that up front so that no one thinks I'm trying to be definitive.